Monster Mania 40- August 17-19, 2018- Cherry Hill, NJ

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Re: Monster Mania 40- August 17-19, 2018- Cherry Hill, NJ

Post by AJLe » April 23rd, 2018, 8:02 pm

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Carl Weathers, Booker T and Kane Hodder/Freddy vs Jason photo op announced.
Technically it's a ROBERT ENGLUND vs. Jason op - only Kane will be :suited:


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Post by class316 » April 23rd, 2018, 8:07 pm

The Freddy versus Jason shot can only be valid with one Jason
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Re: Monster Mania 40- August 17-19, 2018- Cherry Hill, NJ

Post by Gumby » April 23rd, 2018, 9:10 pm

Technically it's a ROBERT ENGLUND vs. Jason op
LOL That's true. Who knows, maybe Monster-Mania will back a dump truck full of $$$$ to Englund's house to make it a suited op.

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Re: Monster Mania 40- August 17-19, 2018- Cherry Hill, NJ

Post by Btvsp3 » April 23rd, 2018, 9:16 pm

It’s still not valid because that’s not the actor who played Jason in Freddy Vs Jason.
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Post by class316 » April 23rd, 2018, 9:33 pm

Btvsp3 wrote:
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It’s still not valid because that’s not the actor who played Jason in Freddy Vs Jason.
That's what I meant. It's only valid with that one Jason
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Post by Greg2600 » April 23rd, 2018, 10:33 pm

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Post by overthetop17 » April 23rd, 2018, 10:44 pm

Who knows, maybe Monster-Mania will back a dump truck full of $$$$ to Englund's house to make it a suited op.
Don't think he is allowed, he signed a contract to do suited ops one last time years back.

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Post by AJLe » April 23rd, 2018, 11:16 pm

If it was fully costumed by both guys, I'd actually be more interested in a Freddy/Kane as Jason op than the Kerzinger Jason from the movie. Although I thought Richard Brooker and Ted White were "better" Jason's, it was Kane's run in the mask that was competing with NOES at the box office, and it was Kane's Jason that fans waited a decade to see fight Freddy, but never got that matchup. Actual F13 fans would turn out big for that op. It'll still draw well like this, but the Robert/Kane dual suited op would be an epic draw.

To the best of my knowledge, Robert only did two suited ops - Flashback Weekend in Chicago (where I got him), and a show in London. Even then, he wouldn't wear the iconic sweater at either of those shows, so he's never done a 100% fully-costumed Freddy op at a con.

Sooooo glad I went out to Chicago to get the Freddy op, since it doesn't appear that he's going to do another one anytime soon.

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Re: Monster Mania 40- August 17-19, 2018- Cherry Hill, NJ

Post by class316 » April 24th, 2018, 12:18 am

AJLe wrote:
April 23rd, 2018, 11:16 pm
If it was fully costumed by both guys, I'd actually be more interested in a Freddy/Kane as Jason op than the Kerzinger Jason from the movie. Although I thought Richard Brooker and Ted White were "better" Jason's, it was Kane's run in the mask that was competing with NOES at the box office, and it was Kane's Jason that fans waited a decade to see fight Freddy, but never got that matchup. Actual F13 fans would turn out big for that op. It'll still draw well like this, but the Robert/Kane dual suited op would be an epic draw.
I still don't get why this would be an epic draw. That's as logical as wanting a Peter Weller Vs Arnold photo op because fans used to yearn for that Robocop Vs Terminator movie (and the fact that there were comics and video games). Kerzinger from Freddy Vs Jason would be the only correct Jason here.
To the best of my knowledge, Robert only did two suited ops - Flashback Weekend in Chicago (where I got him), and a show in London. Even then, he wouldn't wear the iconic sweater at either of those shows, so he's never done a 100% fully-costumed Freddy op at a con.
The logic behind this still baffles me. Go through all that trouble to do the full make up shot, yet don't wear the proper outfit. It's like, WHY?
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Re: Monster Mania 40- August 17-19, 2018- Cherry Hill, NJ

Post by AJLe » April 24th, 2018, 8:21 am

class316 wrote:
April 24th, 2018, 12:18 am

I still don't get why this would be an epic draw.
Because it would be two of the biggest horror icons of the 80's, and something horror fans have clearly expressed that they want to see?

Promoters and fans don't follow your stupid self-imposed "validity rules", they go by what paying customers would be into buying.

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Post by class316 » April 24th, 2018, 2:51 pm

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April 24th, 2018, 8:21 am
Because it would be two of the biggest horror icons of the 80's, and something horror fans have clearly expressed that they want to see?

Promoters and fans don't follow your stupid self-imposed "validity rules", they go by what paying customers would be into buying.
As I stated, Hodder/Englund makes about as much sense as Peter Weller and Arnold (Robocop vs Terminator). Or even Sigourney Weaver and Arnold (Alien vs Predator).

But I guess the MM sheep who have met Englund and Hodder 1000 times will buy it and that's what counts.
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Post by ICW » April 24th, 2018, 2:53 pm

Sounds like a cool "fantasy" type photo op. I'd get it if I was into horror.
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Re: Monster Mania 40- August 17-19, 2018- Cherry Hill, NJ

Post by AJLe » April 24th, 2018, 3:16 pm

class316 wrote:
April 24th, 2018, 2:51 pm

As I stated, Hodder/Englund makes about as much sense as Peter Weller and Arnold (Robocop vs Terminator). Or even Sigourney Weaver and Arnold (Alien vs Predator).
Well, if some con actually offered those photo ops, and they were Robocop, Terminator, Ripley and Dutch-suited, there would be a huge demand for them, and people would pay high prices to get them, regardless of the fact that they never acted in the same film together. So thanks for proving my point.
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But I guess the MM sheep who have met Englund 1000 times will buy it and that's what counts.
Whether or not fans will buy a photo op in large numbers literally IS "what counts".

What, do you expect a promoter to shoot down a proposed photo op that people will line up and pay money to get, just because some idiot on a message board made up a "rule" about what constitutes a "valid" photo op? Normal people don't think like that.

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Post by ICW » April 24th, 2018, 3:23 pm

In wrestling terms: if there was a Sting/Undertaker SUITED photo op...I'd totally get it.
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Re: Monster Mania 40- August 17-19, 2018- Cherry Hill, NJ

Post by class316 » April 24th, 2018, 3:29 pm

AJLe wrote:
April 24th, 2018, 3:16 pm
What, do you expect a promoter to shoot down a proposed photo op that people will line up and pay money to get, just because some idiot on a message board made up a "rule" about what constitutes a "valid" photo op? Normal people don't think like that.
No. As I stated already I slam the MM sheep for buying something like that.

Also, only Hodder is suited, not Robert. Which lessens it even more.
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