James Ellsworth allegations

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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by class316 » November 29th, 2018, 3:18 pm

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Claiming that the account was fake doesn't explain how this girl could have gotten nude pics of him. And if that last allegation, that he offered to pay somebody to have the phone destroyed, can be proven, the dude's likely going to do some actual jail time over it.

Not to mention the fact that truly innocent people aren't likely to pay to have the evidence against them destroyed.
In theory if he sent so many nudes to people then it is possible someone made a fake account and sent her the pics.

If that news story is true then he is screwed when he may not have been before.
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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by class316 » November 29th, 2018, 8:22 pm

On another note, Sunny refusing to work with him is laughable, as she is no model citizen herself. She got how many DUIs?
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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by AJLe » November 30th, 2018, 9:25 am

Well, I think most people would consider "pursuing sex with an uninterested minor" to be several levels worse than a DUI or any drug related crime, but that's obvious to most of us.

The real hypocrisy will be if she has, or will, work any of RF's wrestling shows or conventions.

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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by Greg2600 » November 30th, 2018, 12:38 pm

This is all very odd. This accuser has implicated Mr. Ellsworth in TWO different crimes. Why aren't the police involved?
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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by class316 » November 30th, 2018, 1:24 pm

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Well, I think most people would consider "pursuing sex with an uninterested minor" to be several levels worse than a DUI or any drug related crime, but that's obvious to most of us.

The real hypocrisy will be if she has, or will, work any of RF's wrestling shows or conventions.
When you drive drunk you put other lives in danger. She did that not once but MANY times. That definitely ranks worse than sending nude photos to a 16 year old, imo.

Sunny has actually defended RF on Facebook. There also RF shoots with Sunny.
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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by AJLe » November 30th, 2018, 2:05 pm

Nobody's saying drunk driving is A-OK, it's obviously a terrible thing to do. But on the moral scale, it's much, much, MUCH less evil than *trying to f**k children*, which is what Ellsworth's intentions clearly were. Even despicable criminals serving life terms in prison tend to despise kid-touchers. It's pretty much the lowest of the low.

And like I said, defending RF is where the hypocrisy truly lies. That's basically saying "I'm OK with kid-touchers, as long as they're in a position to make me money". If Ellsworth's indy company was established and running big shows regularly, she'd defend him too.

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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by class316 » November 30th, 2018, 4:28 pm

AJLe wrote:
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Nobody's saying drunk driving is A-OK, it's obviously a terrible thing to do. But on the moral scale, it's much, much, MUCH less evil than *trying to f**k children*, which is what Ellsworth's intentions clearly were. Even despicable criminals serving life terms in prison tend to despise kid-touchers. It's pretty much the lowest of the low.
If he engaged in actual pedophelia I'd agree with you. But the girl is 16 which is legal in most US states and in Canada. So it's not pedophilia. Underage perhaps but not pedophilia.

So in this case multi DUIs worse
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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by AJLe » November 30th, 2018, 5:35 pm

He was sending nudes to a girl who was 16 and looked even younger. If he did that (which I'm confident he did), he's into having sex with underage kids, and doesn't give a shit whether they're 14, 15, 16 whatever. So semantics aside, he's a "adult who likes sex with kids " - whatever word you want to use to describe that.

And since anytime this subject comes up on this board (almost always brought up in a post by you), you ALWAYS manage to play devil's advocate for the kid toucher, I somehow doubt your "I'd agree with you if he was a pedophile" line.

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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by class316 » November 30th, 2018, 5:47 pm

AJLe wrote:
November 30th, 2018, 5:35 pm
He was sending nudes to a girl who was 16 and looked even younger. If he did that (which I'm confident he did), he's into having sex with underage kids, and doesn't give a shit whether they're 14, 15, 16 whatever. So semantics aside, he's a "adult who likes sex with kids " - whatever word you want to use to describe that.

And since anytime this subject comes up on this board (almost always brought up in a post by you), you ALWAYS manage to play devil's advocate for the kid toucher, I somehow doubt your "I'd agree with you if he was a pedophile" line.
Funny story, people have accused me of pedophilia because I've been with 18 - 22 year olds that pass as 15 - 16.
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Re: James Ellsworth allegations

Post by class316 » December 14th, 2018, 7:35 pm

Things seem quiet on the Ellsworth front. I'm guessing he has escaped legal consequences.
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