GFW, the former TNA, in big $$$ trouble

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Re: GFW, the former TNA, in big $$$ trouble

Post by class316 » September 12th, 2017, 11:46 am

What is considered bigger in Japan? WWE or NJPW?
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Re: GFW, the former TNA, in big $$$ trouble

Post by cmshowstopper » September 12th, 2017, 6:25 pm

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September 12th, 2017, 8:50 am
The only way WWE is ever competed with again is if their numbers keep dropping low enough where pro wrestling is a niche entity even on the WWE level. No other company will reach even the WWE level right now in terms of numbers on North American soil.
Vince is current game is to be anything but a niche. He has solid corporate partnerships and offers a family friendly product. Only a major scandal like a Benoit situation could crush WWE right now. I still believe that IF the shareholders were hit had in their pockets, THAT would affect change. And IF someone with serious money, like Dixie's daddy, were to open the checkbook and then have someone with actual wrestling knowledge run the company....they could compete with WWE. It might take 10 years...but it can happen. The problem is finding that combination. Can you imagine if Heyman has access to Dixie's daddy's checkbook? Heyman makes the creative decisions and Papa Carter writes the checks. THATS how you compete. Once stars know there is another place they can go where they can get paid without issue, know they will be used in a better format AND be provided perks like the MUCH softer schedule....you can then get guys that will shun WWE and walk. We saw Christian Cage walk from WWE. We saw Kurt Angle, who was partially forced to leave, head to TNA. We saw Jeff Hardy, who was at the PEAK of his career, tell Vince no. And went back to TNA.

Its not always about just the dollars and cents for these guys. And sadly, there are way too many belt marks in pro wrestling anyway. Publically, they will all tell you how they dont care about wins and losses or belts. But I think the business is filled with more belt marks now then ever.
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Re: GFW, the former TNA, in big $$$ trouble

Post by Anthony18 » September 15th, 2017, 12:57 pm

Didn't TNA almost have Heyman in 2009? He wanted to be the Dana White of TNA. Instead they brought in Hogan and Bischoff and everything has been downhill since!

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Re: GFW, the former TNA, in big $$$ trouble

Post by class316 » September 15th, 2017, 1:49 pm

Anthony18 wrote:
September 15th, 2017, 12:57 pm
Didn't TNA almost have Heyman in 2009? He wanted to be the Dana White of TNA. Instead they brought in Hogan and Bischoff and everything has been downhill since!
They were already downhill. Don't see how Hogan and Bischoff could have achieved that. At best you can say they failed to make it a success.
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Re: GFW, the former TNA, in big $$$ trouble

Post by mrira » September 15th, 2017, 7:09 pm

In 2010, after Brock Lesnar choked out Shane Carwin, there was a discussion that I had with TNA that involved Spike TV. Ultimately, because TNA had been trying to get me on the phone from the day I left WWE in 2006 and I never took the phone call. We finally got into a conversation because Spike TV had reached out to make that happen.

Ultimately, the story of this is, if I was going to do it, I wanted the Dana White deal. I wanted complete control, I wanted a piece of the company and I wanted the ability to, when the time was right, to take it public. I wanted to do the programming completely different than the way they had been doing it and Spike TV signed off on it. The concept was a very youth-oriented, youth-based, youth-marketed promotion. A complete contrast to the way WWE does things. A complete and utter alternative to WWE at the time.

While the ruling family in TNA had no problem with my salary request, my ownership demands, my concepts, etc. etc., they didn't want to implement as much of a youth-oriented product as I was looking for and I balked at it. I have no regrets about that. At the end of the day, they were happier being a WWE-lite promotion than they were branding themselves something different as TNA.

So that was the last flirtation I had with doing my own thing...In regard to doing my own thing in sports entertainment, I kinda do my own thing now with Brock Lesnar and I'm very happy doing it.

Running a whole show is a 24/7 and 365 commitment, and you would need an enormous amount of financing and very strong distribution set up front to get me to the table to even consider such a task. Otherwise, it's doomed to fail.

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